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Title: My Ban
Post by: matty on November 24, 2013, 10:06:12 PM
i had no idea people was trying to defend me, I never asked or expected anyone to be on my side after the actions I was involved in.

Yes it was wrong of me for what myself and others have done and I understand hours of real time had gone in to what I so foolishly took away. I am not going to blame it all on the others because I can say no but at that time it was happening I was in a bad place in my own life (I wont bore you with the details) just it had something to do with my new born son and I understand I should of found a new server to be a dick on but I didn't think.

I know you probably think im a prick and will do it again but I wont I just went through a bad patch and I honestly regret what I don't id like to make it up to everyone so please if you could find it in yourself to give me a second chance I would be grateful I miss playing with everyone and I would like the chance to prove I have changed. I understand if you say no but how about a trial to see if im telling the truth.

thanks for your time.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: jamiet91 on November 24, 2013, 11:39:07 PM
 ;D yay good to see you've put your self an appeal up dude, and i no matty personally like grew up with him. i no he did some real bad things :( but he is no longer involved with the clan players he was in at the time. he deserves a second chance i no he wont do it again he don''t usually apologize unless he generally means it("to much pride") and i have missed being in game with him lol cuz we worked well as a team on day'z. i will but my own unban on the line here if you give him a trial period and he messes it up you can ban me also. that's how much i no he ain't going to do it again. you guys have sounded very adiment on not unbanning matty. but if you could rethink it and minimum set up a unban vote that would be awsome. i have proved myself on the server and by now i hope u guys don't worry about me doing any form of banditry server to good not to be involved in and with the upcoming bandit camps its going to be  even better. plz plz plz give it a thought guys.

thanks for reading :P
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: Shane on November 25, 2013, 04:21:42 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about this lol.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: Mordecai The Fox on November 25, 2013, 07:31:03 PM
i had no idea people was trying to defend me, I never asked or expected anyone to be on my side after the actions I was involved in.

Yes it was wrong of me for what myself and others have done and I understand hours of real time had gone in to what I so foolishly took away. I am not going to blame it all on the others because I can say no but at that time it was happening I was in a bad place in my own life (I wont bore you with the details) just it had something to do with my new born son and I understand I should of found a new server to be a dick on but I didn't think.

I know you probably think im a prick and will do it again but I wont I just went through a bad patch and I honestly regret what I don't id like to make it up to everyone so please if you could find it in yourself to give me a second chance I would be grateful I miss playing with everyone and I would like the chance to prove I have changed. I understand if you say no but how about a trial to see if im telling the truth.

thanks for your time.

I can appreciate you coming to the forums I suppose and at least trying to explain why you did what you ended up doing.  However, I can say my vote is no and that WILL not change.  Mike and I have discussed this in the past about what should be done should a request come up.  He is liable to change his mind if he wishes but I am standing my ground on this one.  You should have considered all of this before running around causing grief.   There will be no vote.  There will be no unban.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: brendan on November 25, 2013, 07:48:57 PM
we want matty back 8)
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: Mike on November 25, 2013, 11:26:17 PM
Well I must admit, I did previously say "No way!" to mordi, and I was very adamant about that - So I may be partly to blame for the 'no way' situation now.

That said I must admit that I'm now on the fence with this one... I mean, Matty you were indeed a VERY cool player on the server for a long time. However that kinda makes what happened WORSE in a way!

Sorry to hear you had personal/family issues, and I really hope that they are resolved and your family are well.

In terms of the unban, as I say, I'm on the fence. If you can convince Mordi, then I'll go with that, however under the circumstances I have to back his decision here - Mordi spends a lot of time checking the server and solving issues - so out of respect to Mr. Mordi, I will go with what he decides.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: Pip on November 26, 2013, 01:21:32 AM
We the people want the Vote. 
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: savedbygrace on November 26, 2013, 01:22:57 AM
Looks like Mordecai may become the bad guy here but after reading about what all went down, I have to say that you deserve what you get. Things like this are ingrained in someones character and if you were a popular, fun player to everyone how could you turn face and do what you did without conscious, unless you had no intentions of returning and didn't really respect the other players that you knew or the time they invested in their own gaming. So Mordecai and any other player that you harmed during this period are justified in their feelings on the matter.

With that said, I am a firm believer in second and even third chances. I'll not jump behind the lectern and preach to everyone but without forgiveness, none of us would have hope. If people can step outside themselves and see this for what it really is, a community of players getting to know each other, faults and all, and letting others learn from their mistakes, we stand a chance of becoming a closer community where trust is not only earned through action but rubs off on others as well. After all, this is a game, and we are a community of human beings that share a common interest. All other experiences together are icing.

Sorry If I offend.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: matty on November 26, 2013, 01:41:35 AM
thanks for the comments but I disagree its not engraved in our character that's why we have a saying blinded by rage people can change. I was the nicest guy you could meet. id help no matter what I even remember getting my heli blown out the sky trying to help 2 new players and I laughed it off with them. then my son was born and I was chuffed but it didn't last long.
I found out:
he needed to go hospital.
he has exmah
asma
his grandparents steeling from him
I got told I will be a shit dad
and so on that's just a short list that tipped my ass over the edge and im sorry I took it out on the people of this server.
mordi aint going to become the bad guy his doing his job protecting you but I assure you im not that person anymore.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: Mordecai The Fox on November 26, 2013, 03:33:00 PM
Looks like Mordecai may become the bad guy here but after reading about what all went down, I have to say that you deserve what you get. Things like this are ingrained in someones character and if you were a popular, fun player to everyone how could you turn face and do what you did without conscious, unless you had no intentions of returning and didn't really respect the other players that you knew or the time they invested in their own gaming. So Mordecai and any other player that you harmed during this period are justified in their feelings on the matter.

With that said, I am a firm believer in second and even third chances. I'll not jump behind the lectern and preach to everyone but without forgiveness, none of us would have hope. If people can step outside themselves and see this for what it really is, a community of players getting to know each other, faults and all, and letting others learn from their mistakes, we stand a chance of becoming a closer community where trust is not only earned through action but rubs off on others as well. After all, this is a game, and we are a community of human beings that share a common interest. All other experiences together are icing.

Sorry If I offend.

You're not offending anyone, Grace.  And, you're probably right that I will end up being the bad guy here.  It has happened a few times these last two weeks but I refuse to let this server become like all the other bad ones.  It's very rare that I say no vote because we want the community input.  Hell, most servers change completely without anyones consent.  That said.  My judgement is still no vote.  I'm sorry.  You break the rules.  You're gone.  End of story.  If that makes me the bad guy.  So be it.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: brendan on November 26, 2013, 08:02:26 PM
Looks like Mordecai may become the bad guy here but after reading about what all went down, I have to say that you deserve what you get. Things like this are ingrained in someones character and if you were a popular, fun player to everyone how could you turn face and do what you did without conscious, unless you had no intentions of returning and didn't really respect the other players that you knew or the time they invested in their own gaming. So Mordecai and any other player that you harmed during this period are justified in their feelings on the matter.

With that said, I am a firm believer in second and even third chances. I'll not jump behind the lectern and preach to everyone but without forgiveness, none of us would have hope. If people can step outside themselves and see this for what it really is, a community of players getting to know each other, faults and all, and letting others learn from their mistakes, we stand a chance of becoming a closer community where trust is not only earned through action but rubs off on others as well. After all, this is a game, and we are a community of human beings that share a common interest. All other experiences together are icing.

Sorry If I offend.

You're not offending anyone, Grace.  And, you're probably right that I will end up being the bad guy here.  It has happened a few times these last two weeks but I refuse to let this server become like all the other bad ones.  It's very rare that I say no vote because we want the community input.  Hell, most servers change completely without anyones consent.  That said.  My judgement is still no vote.  I'm sorry.  You break the rules.  You're gone.  End of story.  If that makes me the bad guy.  So be it.
i'm so sorry that you cant get passed a human being stressed out over real life WE ALL WANT A VOTE or at least a majority of us do if you cant get passed the bad things that he has done don't then thats your problem most of us have.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: Shane on November 26, 2013, 08:36:27 PM
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i'm so sorry that you cant get passed a human being stressed out over real life WE ALL WANT A VOTE or at least a majority of us do if you cant get passed the bad things that he has done don't then thats your problem most of us have.

Hold on don't speak for majority. Mord has every right to have the stance he has. He has to clean up the mess after someone has a bad day etc. He has to listen to us bitch cause people we trusted and ran with on a regular bases decides to be a douche bag and switch names and shoot you in the back. It would be one thing to announce to friends that you roll with that your going full retard that way they know to look out. But when you do dc runs with the people on one name the switch to the other and completely betray them its another altogether.

Bren you were not here when all this went down or if you were you were very new. Don't presume to speak for the majority and don't try and talk down to Mord, Cause he is always fair and works his ass off constantly to ensure when we go to log on everything is peachy. Also From what I understand he is one of the mail financial reasons we have this amazing server to play on period. So not to sound like a rapper but check your self before you wreck yourself lol.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: Mordecai The Fox on November 26, 2013, 08:47:13 PM
Looks like Mordecai may become the bad guy here but after reading about what all went down, I have to say that you deserve what you get. Things like this are ingrained in someones character and if you were a popular, fun player to everyone how could you turn face and do what you did without conscious, unless you had no intentions of returning and didn't really respect the other players that you knew or the time they invested in their own gaming. So Mordecai and any other player that you harmed during this period are justified in their feelings on the matter.

With that said, I am a firm believer in second and even third chances. I'll not jump behind the lectern and preach to everyone but without forgiveness, none of us would have hope. If people can step outside themselves and see this for what it really is, a community of players getting to know each other, faults and all, and letting others learn from their mistakes, we stand a chance of becoming a closer community where trust is not only earned through action but rubs off on others as well. After all, this is a game, and we are a community of human beings that share a common interest. All other experiences together are icing.

Sorry If I offend.

You're not offending anyone, Grace.  And, you're probably right that I will end up being the bad guy here.  It has happened a few times these last two weeks but I refuse to let this server become like all the other bad ones.  It's very rare that I say no vote because we want the community input.  Hell, most servers change completely without anyones consent.  That said.  My judgement is still no vote.  I'm sorry.  You break the rules.  You're gone.  End of story.  If that makes me the bad guy.  So be it.
i'm so sorry that you cant get passed a human being stressed out over real life WE ALL WANT A VOTE or at least a majority of us do if you cant get passed the bad things that he has done don't then thats your problem most of us have.

Brendan, I'm glad you want to have another player back.  That said, you weren't on the server when this occurred as I'm sure the majority don't want him back.  I hate that he was stressed out over real life issues.  I understand that.  However, this wasn't a single day issue...he provoked people day in and day out for about a week or two.  Fucking things up that Mike and myself had to fix.  Believe me, we held back on getting rid of him because we were crossing our fingers he would go back to normal and he did not. 

He switched names...would get rides from friendlies...then log and come back as bandit.  I'm sorry but that's straight up trolling.  He had his chances to change and he didn't.  I'm not willing to risk going through all that again to have another mess to clean up.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: Raccoonticus on November 26, 2013, 08:50:22 PM
Here some beans Shane, well said. I too, was new to the server when most of this was going down. I do remember the aftermath however. It wasn't pretty. I am sure Matty helped my newb butt out a few times in the beginning, which when all came to light made it more difficult for me to trust anyone .  I believe it is up to the admins to decide whether or not he should be given a second chance or a vote for a second chance.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: savedbygrace on November 26, 2013, 10:55:34 PM
In the end, If I were the one paying most of the bills and I said no; this thread would be closed for discussion.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: 2yys on November 26, 2013, 11:14:17 PM
In the end, If I were the one paying most of the bills and I said no; this thread would be closed for discussion.
I know how some of you feel, but at the end every man needs a 2nd chance! Where would we all be today, if it wart for 2nd chances?
I say let him have his vote, then go from there..
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: savedbygrace on November 26, 2013, 11:32:35 PM
I don't disagree with you but barking up a tree at a squirrel that has already moved on to the next tree just makes you look like a stupid mutt.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: 2yys on November 27, 2013, 12:11:07 AM
I don't disagree with you but barking up a tree at a squirrel that has already moved on to the next tree just makes you look like a stupid mutt.
Sorry that you feel that way but if it was u on the end of the BAN hammer I dont think you would feel that way.. Just saying everyone should get a 2nd chance or at least a vote by his peers!
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: matty on November 27, 2013, 12:58:03 AM
stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results the ban has not had a vote (may not get one) so I don't have a result.

im not denying what I did was wrong because it was and I take what happens to me like a man I wont bitch or moan and if im not allowed back you wont hear or see me again but I do regret what I did in the past I am a nice guy at heart I am only asking for a chance to prove that im not the same person as I was before. and its true as a few people have said my pride got in the way so I swallowed my pride because I miss this server I cant fault it the admins are honest and friendly always there to help I miss the events and most of all I miss the people this server felt like home an everyone was like a brother I could count on them to have my back if I needed help.

and mord I don't disagree with you what I did was bang out of order and I don't want you to be the bad guy when I know your not I know your a sound geezer and we had a laff when I blow my heli up so please everyone don't take mord as a bad guy on this he and the other admins worked really hard on getting the server the way it is fixing as many bugs as they can so you have a much smoother easier game play if I do manage to get another chance I will help all the people I wronged.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: jamiet91 on November 27, 2013, 01:33:47 AM
guys this is going well of track lol we are trying to forget about the bad things that happen'd many weeks ago. I no I got banned so not much i say will be enough to get him threw but he does deserver a second chance in my eyes. i mean if he was a new player and tried hacking or duping then I fully understand let him be banned. but its not the case he played for a very long time. putting alot.       
of time into petunia. i no he will do good again he two as also said that he will go onto another server when ever he feels up for some banditry. Mord & Mike i no you'll be risking al oad of time to fix things if he does go bandit again. but i no he wont be like that again. he should at least get a vote or even a few weeks or even months trial i think you would be suprised at how much he has changed in dayz since them dayz :) plz plz plz give him another shot at it. :)
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: brendan on November 27, 2013, 07:22:53 AM

i'm so sorry that you cant get passed a human being stressed out over real life WE ALL WANT A VOTE or at least a majority of us do if you cant get passed the bad things that he has done don't then thats your problem most of us have.

Hold on don't speak for majority. Mord has every right to have the stance he has. He has to clean up the mess after someone has a bad day etc. He has to listen to us bitch cause people we trusted and ran with on a regular bases decides to be a douche bag and switch names and shoot you in the back. It would be one thing to announce to friends that you roll with that your going full retard that way they know to look out. But when you do dc runs with the people on one name the switch to the other and completely betray them its another altogether.

Bren you were not here when all this went down or if you were you were very new. Don't presume to speak for the majority and don't try and talk down to Mord, Cause he is always fair and works his ass off constantly to ensure when we go to log on everything is peachy. Also From what I understand he is one of the mail financial reasons we have this amazing server to play on period. So not to sound like a rapper but check your self before you wreck yourself lol.
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good sir you have a point but i was talking about the people i know and most of them want him back.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: brendan on November 27, 2013, 07:29:08 AM
In the end, If I were the one paying most of the bills and I said no; this thread would be closed for discussion.
I know how some of you feel, but at the end every man needs a 2nd chance! Where would we all be today, if it wart for 2nd chances?
I say let him have his vote, then go from there..
this is very true when marethyu (hugh jass) became a bandit(ma and my group being the first to be attacked) he got banned  i still voted for him and jameit because everbody deserves a second chance.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: brendan on November 27, 2013, 07:32:34 AM
stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results the ban has not had a vote (may not get one) so I don't have a result.

im not denying what I did was wrong because it was and I take what happens to me like a man I wont bitch or moan and if im not allowed back you wont hear or see me again but I do regret what I did in the past I am a nice guy at heart I am only asking for a chance to prove that im not the same person as I was before. and its true as a few people have said my pride got in the way so I swallowed my pride because I miss this server I cant fault it the admins are honest and friendly always there to help I miss the events and most of all I miss the people this server felt like home an everyone was like a brother I could count on them to have my back if I needed help.

and mord I don't disagree with you what I did was bang out of order and I don't want you to be the bad guy when I know your not I know your a sound geezer and we had a laff when I blow my heli up so please everyone don't take mord as a bad guy on this he and the other admins worked really hard on getting the server the way it is fixing as many bugs as they can so you have a much smoother easier game play if I do manage to get another chance I will help all the people I wronged.
matty has a point morde is not the "bad guy" we are just 2 groups with diffrent oppinions
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: brendan on November 27, 2013, 07:40:29 AM
Brendan, I'm glad you want to have another player back.  That said, you weren't on the server when this occurred

this is what morde said and that is true i was not on the server untill the day before he got banned but about 5 of my australian friends(who now play on the walking chernarus with the exception of zbeast) where on and told me how good aof a pearson matty "was" so to speak and i belive that many people have changed after their bans(such as jameit and marethyu both of which i voted for) so why cant matty change after his ban?
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: brendan on November 27, 2013, 07:41:49 AM
I don't disagree with you but barking up a tree at a squirrel that has already moved on to the next tree just makes you look like a stupid mutt.
Sorry that you feel that way but if it was u on the end of the BAN hammer I dont think you would feel that way.. Just saying everyone should get a 2nd chance or at least a vote by his peers!
this is the most true statment i have read tonight
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: Mike on November 27, 2013, 11:24:14 AM
Hey Matty,

Thanks for the reply and details.

I still can't over-ride what Mordi says really, because I need to back Mr. Mordi - he spends hours on admin duties and looks out for all players, so as he's expressed a strong opinion, the decision lays with mordi this time.

That said, on a personal, non-game related - I'm sorry to hear about all your problems and I hope your son is okay - I can't imagine how much stress all that you described caused! I hope everything has settled down somewhat for you now IRL :)

The only way you could get back on the server really is convince Mr. Mordi that you should be for which I think he'd need to feel that the server would improve, rather than be put at risk etc - this time, without Mordi's say-so, it can't happen.

thanks for the comments but I disagree its not engraved in our character that's why we have a saying blinded by rage people can change. I was the nicest guy you could meet. id help no matter what I even remember getting my heli blown out the sky trying to help 2 new players and I laughed it off with them. then my son was born and I was chuffed but it didn't last long.
I found out:
he needed to go hospital.
he has exmah
asma
his grandparents steeling from him
I got told I will be a shit dad
and so on that's just a short list that tipped my ass over the edge and im sorry I took it out on the people of this server.
mordi aint going to become the bad guy his doing his job protecting you but I assure you im not that person anymore.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: matty on November 27, 2013, 06:41:32 PM
i wont be putting the server at risk nor be destructive again. I would like to help the players in anyway I can people can change. I know I am asking for a lot when I ask for another chance but I wouldn't ask if I didn't regret what I done from the bottom of my heart I can honestly say this was the best server ive ever had the pleasure to play on. and I aint played dayz much since being banned from here it just don't feel right and that's my own fault but again I wouldn't be pleading for another chance if I hadn't changed back to the old matty.

mike everything has died down now and its gotten better thanks for asking :).
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: matty on December 07, 2013, 09:51:30 PM
I hate to ask because I don't know whats going on but am I getting a vote or is it a 100% no go. I only ask because I really do miss playing with everyone :(
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: jamiet91 on December 07, 2013, 10:10:05 PM
come on MORD you're like Bruce Almighty haha "you've got the POWER"  haha :)
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: Pip on December 08, 2013, 11:49:43 PM
I say open vote.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: brendan on December 09, 2013, 08:02:17 PM
OPEN VOTE!!!! OPEN VOTE!!!! OPEN VOTE!!!! OPEN VOTE!!!! OPEN VOTE!!!! OPEN VOTE!!!! OPEN VOTE!!!!
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: matty on December 09, 2013, 09:03:52 PM
thanks guys :D i just really want to get back and show everyone im my old self the nice friendly guy.
Title: Re: My Ban
Post by: Mordecai The Fox on December 11, 2013, 01:14:44 AM
I've already dealt with this subject.  No vote.  It may change in the future but right now my focus is else where.  Thread locked.